Colin Fry: The Message

To many working Mediums and fans Colin Fry is the Take That of the Mediumship field.  A man who has worked tirelessly for many years to demonstrate Mediumship to the highest possible standards, and a man whose genuine love for human beings has become the watchword of the work he does.

Anyone who has ever seen Colin on stage will know that his kindness and compassion for both his audience and the Spirit World is tinged with a remarkable sense of humour that keeps the evening joyful, uplifting and interesting from start to finish.  However, there is a side to Colin that many people may not have discovered – he is also a qualified Life Coach, an inspirational speaker, a trained counsellor.  He is also a talented writer who draws on an eclectic mix of spirituality and down-to-earth commonsense in his latest book “The Message”.

“The Message”  is a remarkable endeavour by someone who is best know for his Mediumship and stage and television persona, yet has taken a personal step aside and instead focussed his efforts on helping people to deal with that most ravaging of all emotions – grief.  In the book he combines his experiences as a Medium with his real-world training to provide people with a 7 step plan to ‘leave hurt and hardship behind’.  As it says on the back of the book “his work has given him life-enhancing insights that can benefit us all”.

Medium caught holding trumpet

Shocked sitters witnessed physical medium Lincoln “standing in the middle of the room holding a spirit trumpet in his hand” when the lights suddenly came on during a Noah’s Ark Society (NAS) séance last month.The séance held before an invited audience, took place at NAS chairman Robin Foy’s home in Scole, Norfolk. The incident is alleged to have occurred within 20 minutes of the circle getting underway.

Sheffield medium Betty Allen – “a Spiritualist for 50 years” – told PN, “I was shocked. There were 30 disillusioned people there that night.” Up to that moment, she said, the circle had proceeded in a normal fashion. “Lincoln came in and sat in the chair provided,” she explained. “I had never seen him before. “He took off his shoes and rings. Then the leader of his home circle tied his hands with plastic straps and put leather straps around his ankles. He stressed how strong the bands were. Sandra Foy (Robin’s wife) tied one of the straps on herself.”

A saucer of molasses, minerals, a bell, a keyboard, a toy illuminated octopus and two trumpets, on celluloid and the other metal were among the objects placed in the centre of the circle. Before going into trance, the medium is said to have asked for “certain items, like the saucer of molasses and the bell,” to be removed. “He also asked for the keyboard to be set back,” Mrs Allen commented.

Robin Foy opened with a prayer, and, in the total darkness, the séance commenced. Mrs Allen – she was sitting in the front row – said she was taken aback when the medium asked for a cushion to be put under him as the chair was hard. “I thought once entranced, it wouldn’t matter to a medium whether the chair was hard or not, she explained.

The sitters joined together in a number of songs in order to raise the vibrations.The singing was so robust and enthusiastic, Mrs Allen commented, “the house could have fallen down and nobody would have heard anything.” At this point a woman sitter is claimed to have called out, “something has fallen on me. I think it is a cushion.”

“An illuminated trumpet began moving up and down in front of Robin Foy,” Mrs Allen recalled. “At that time we thought the séance was marvellous. The bell had rung and we heard music from the keyboard. “Somebody in the back row screamed when the toy octopus caught the side of her face and a man said the celluloid trumpet had fallen between his legs.”

Then a totally unexpected occurrence ensued. The ceiling light, said Mrs Allen, suddenly came on, flooding the room with brilliant light. “And there was Lincoln standing in front of me,” she stated. “He was holding the trumpet up in the air with his own hand. I was utterly socked.

“Although the light was on for only four or five seconds, it was quite sufficient for people to see him standing there. There was deathly silence.” At that point it in claimed the medium cried out before “throwing himself backwards to the floor.” Lincoln was then helped to his feet and escorted from the room.

Later, it is alleged the medium commented, “They have let me down. It was Daniel’s fault.” It is believed the “Daniel” referred to was a mischievous earthbound spirit, who allegedly entered the medium’s body during the sitting. It is further claimed that the lights were turned on by the spirit world in order to rid Lincoln of his possessing entity.

Mrs Allen commented that on examining the chair in which the medium had been tied, it was found “the only band remaining intact was that tied by Sandra Foy. The others were either broken or undone.” The Sheffield medium said she was “no stranger to physical phenomena. “I was privileged to sit with that fine physical medium Bill Olsen and also direct-voice medium Leslie Flint,” she explained. “I have also visited the Arthur Findlay College in Stansted on many occasions. “Bill Olsen used to be tied up in his chair with rope,” she pointed out. “Later, they tied him in with cotton. His coat and waistcoat were removed during that séance just the same, yet the cotton remained absolutely intact.”

Shocked ay what she had witnessed at Scole, Mrs Allen told PN: “I love Spiritualism. And I am a stickler for the truth. But I don’t believe it was the truth I witnessed that day.” Many visitors who attended the circle had journeyed from remote parts of the country, she pointed out.

“One couple had travelled 370 miles and had to book a hotel for the night,” she said. “Another visitor from the Ilse of Man had spent 10 hours getting there.” Gale Buckley of Doncaster who attended the circle together with her husband and a friend commented: “We were devastated at what happened. WE had read so much about Lincoln and were really looking forward to it.”

Telling her own version of what transpired, Mrs Buckley said, “The toy octopus was thrown behind me and a red trumpet landed between my husband’s legs. “We saw another trumpet moving about. Then a bright light suddenly went on. “I looked at Lincoln’s chair, but he wasn’t sitting in it. When I turned I could see him standing quite a distance away. He had a spirit trumpet in his hand.”

Neither Mrs Allen or Mrs Buckley could explain who had actually turned the light on for those few seconds.

On behalf of the Noah’s Ark Society committee, publicity officer George Cranley last week issued the following statement regarding Lincoln and the Scole séance:

“1. We wish to state emphatically that, through previous experiments, experience and long association with this medium, genuine physical phenomena has been consistently demonstrated.

2. The medium is as perturbed by the occurrence as the society and has, of his own free will, expressed his desire to be fully tested by the committee at Scole. Members will be kept fully informed of developments through the monthly newsletter.

3. Until such a time as this has been successfully done he will not demonstrate to members at Scole or at any of the Society’s seminars.

4. Physical mediumship has historically proved to be controversial, enigmatic and paradoxical.

In order to avoid such difficulties the Spiritualist movement largely divorced itself from such mediumship 50 years ago to court respectability. This incident will not weaken the Society’s function nor resolve to see this highly evidential and precious form of mediumship emerge once again and become available to all people. The spirit world has entrusted us with this work and in consequence the Ark will proceed through rough and smooth waters on its journey. We shall not shirk our responsibility.”

Mrs Buckley has this to say of the proposed Lincoln “test” sittings by NAS committee members: “I think someone other than committee members should be on this team who are investigating this. “I would suggest that an impartial observer be invited along.”

The society stated that they had commissioned Dr Jim White, a polymer expert in the materials department of Newcastle-upon-Tyne University, to scientifically analyse the plastic wristbands that secured Lincoln to his chair. They also told PN a full report of the sitting will be appearing in the society’s November newsletter.

Lincoln was unavailable for comment.

As a young medium I began to explore physical mediumship. For one so young and new to it, I had achieved some spectacular results and manifestations. The trouble was I began to believe my own press and publicity. I actually began to think that I was in charge of controlling these manifestations from the spirit world, rather that sometimes it might actually be the other way round. Over the course of about two years I demonstrated for a closed circle group called the Noah's Ark Society (NAS), and was persuaded to give occasional public demonstrations. In order to protect my personal life I was given the name of 'Lincoln'. NAS differed slightly from the accepted view of the Spiritualist Movement:it felt that one of its missions was to try and see this highly evidential and precious form of mediumship emerge once again and become available to all people.

So in November 1992 I was talked into giving a more public demonstration of my physical mediumship. There were many at that time, including myself who felt it was really too early in my development of this sort of mediumship to be allowing so many outside sitters to attend. There was quite a lot of pressure placed upon me based upon my past results and to be honest I did feel quite stressed about it all. The truth was that I had a feeling things were going to go wrong that day.

However, I didn't want to let people down, and if I am honest, my ego was getting the better of me! After being secured to a Windsor style chair using 300lbs breaking strain cable ties, the light switches were turned off, boxed over and secured with duck tape. From the beginning the sounds and manifestations from the other side that evening were unsophisticated and unrefined. Approximately twenty minutes into the proceedings the main light came on for about five seconds. Those attending claimed I was standing in a trance like state holding a trumpet in the middle of the room. I fell to the floor in a state of confusion and shock and was escorted out.

I remember very little of these proceedings, but witnesses said that at the time I was in great distress and in considerable pain with bruising and burn marks to my stomach. Unfortunately this was nothing compared to the furore that was caused in psychic circles. By not controlling the spirit phenomena I had let many people down, most of all those who had helped me develop. Although the broken cable ties (which cannot be undone by pulling once tightened) were tested by a Polymer expert in the materials department of Newcastle University showing that I could not have cut them on my own without cutting my hands and feet, I was distressed by the bad publicity generated and the fact that I had provided many skeptics with the ammunition they needed to attack what I loved most.

It was obvious I was not as good a medium as I'd thought and I needed to go away and strengthen my mediumship. Together with the NAS I decided that I would no longer demonstrate publicly until my spirit guides gave explicit instructions to resume.

aussiepom wrote:Must admit,I have never read the last paragraph given by Colin Fry.    Most interesting.....

aussiepom wrote:My opinion is,the whole caboodle was one great shamble......

aussiepom wrote:I believe he is now a minister of some religion....would it be Spiritualism? 
The Spiritualist church?

Hello everyone, blessings to you all. Well what a year ! 2012 saw the launch of my latest book and Autobiography, The Happy Medium (which I has also named my next tour after), My partner and I moved house, well moved country actually, we now have a house in Spain. Mikey bravely undertook the main move himself as I was still busy with the tour back in October, I had briefly made two trips before heading out there for Christmas. I have to say he has done a wonderful job organising everything before my arrival. I also officially became a minister ! I was ordained at Three Bridges Spiritualist Church with the United Spiritualist Church by Rev. Ray Robinson, of Wimbledon Spiritualist Church. Becoming a minister has been my ambition for many years, as I have told thousands of people in my audience, for the future I want to dedicate some of my time as a minister in between tour dates and of course living in Spain. I have got two new additions to my doggie family, some of you on Facebook would have seen Stella and Bonny, both rescue dogs. I am spending some quality time in Spain at the moment resting in preparation of my new exciting tour for 2013, The Happy Medium, Celebrating 35 years of being a professional medium. I look forward to seeing friends old and new in my new tour. Blessings, Rev Colin Fry.

Maggie wrote:I am going to see Colin Fry in his Voices from Heaven tour at the end of this month.  I am really looking forward to it.  My question is to anyone that has been to see him demonstrate.  What did you think of him?  Did you get a message off him, if so was it something that made sence for you?

The best medium I have ever seen was Daren Britain.  Didn't get a message myself but my brother did, and what he told him no one could have known.  I did not know that information myself until my brother confirmed it afterwards.  Daren is a lovely man also.  Very spiritual but very down to earth at the same time.  That was 3 years ago.  I have not been to a demonstration of clairvoyance since, but now I have a really special reason for going and hoping I get a message.

I would love to hear people's thoughts and reviews.

Colin Fry, Britain's top spiritualist medium, has sadly died aged 53.

He lost a battle with cancer and died peacefully in hospital shortly before 3am today, a spokesman said.

"Colin brought a lot of comfort to his audiences in a career which spanned for more than 30 years," a statement on the website said.

"Our sympathies and condolences go out to Colin's family and friends.

"We, as his management, for many years would like to add that he was the most charming man with the biggest heart, who devoted his life to helping others, and he will be sorely missed."

Colin performed at the Grimsby Auditorium a number of times in recent years.

JonDonnis wrote:
Someone should take a closer look at the ACTIN "charity" he set up in Spain.
A few people emailed BP about it, and what they actually do, and that is is purely a set up for Colins husband Mikey for after Colin dies

Ketchup wrote:
Only an extremely suspicious-minded cynic would look on it in such a negative way.

The aim of ACTIN is to unite the charities and associations in Spain to work for a common cause. Changing the welfare and treatment of animals in Spain.

As you are the one apparently querying the nature and validity of the charitable status of ACTIN, perhaps YOU should be that "someone" to "take the closer look" at what it's all about.

Presumably, as a seasoned skeptic, and having made such questionable insinuations, you will be prepared to do some research to back up those apparent accusations? Go ahead ... I'll start you off and save you some of the research work.

Here you can find out about the charities and associations that also work together with ACTIN :

Pro-Setter in Spain

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PRO-SETTER Spain, with their main headquarters in Murcia, is a non profit animal welfare association whose main purposes are rescuing, healing, rehabilitating and later re-homing of Setters and other breeds used for hunting, that without justification end in a situation of helplessness.

SOS Animals

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SOS Animals in the UK are committed to supporting crucial neutering programmes, distributing vital medications and re-homing animals in desperate need. SOS UK changes one animal's life at a time.

The Great Animal Rescue Chase

Visit the website: animalrescuechase.com

The Great Animal Rescue Chase celebrates the art of animal rescue with a worldwide race to rescue one million. It’s a free event, open to all, and is perhaps the only global animal rescue event aimed at helping any animal in distress, anywhere in the world. Our ambition is to create a culture of enthusiasm and pride in animal activism. We believe in teaching, by example, that there is a hero in each of us just waiting to be unleashed.

The Harmony Fund

The Harmony Fund is a USA based 501(c)3 charity that sponsors some of the very best animal protection efforts around the world. We support projects that raise the standards of welfare for the pets in our lives, the animals on our farms and the wild things in the forest and the sea.

European Society of Dog & Animal Welfare (ESDAW)

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ESDAW® - European Society of Dog and Animal Welfare - is a non religious and non profit umbrella organization, network and platform. We are politically independent. Our mission is to advocate for animal-rights and animal welfare in the EU and Europe.

Our purpose is to inform - the public - the politicians - the EU - and the media...

Care for Cats in Ibiza

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Since 2000 we have neutered over 11000 cats on the island of Ibiza. Before our arrival there was no help for them and they were left to live or die on the streets or in the countryside, scavening for food or dying of starvation. also giving birth at least twice a year.

Now, our charity is well known through our work and also we have had several articles in local papers. We also publicise our visit in advance each time and so as soon as we arrive we have a long list of areas to go to.

You can also find Care 4 Cats on facebook.

S.C.A.N.

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At S.C.A.N. we continuously work towards the achievement of the following Aims and Objectives, the:

RESCUE of animals in danger
CARE of the animals that we rescue
REHOMING of all the animals

To allow us to do this effectively we continuously strive to raise sufficient funds to enable SCAN to achieve its worthwhile objectives.

SCAN is currently developing a programme in conjunction with a local Veterinary Surgeon and the Ayuntamiento in El Verger which is designed to take an active role in the local college to help improve the awareness of animal health and safety and in doing so help achieve a cultural change in the outlook of the local population with regards to animal welfare.

You can also find SCAN on facebook

NICO Dog Rescue Support Spain

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Nico Dog Rescue Support Spain is a small organisation based on the Murcia/Almeria border of southern Spain. It was set up in 2010 to help with the rescue and re-homing of some of the many dogs that had been abandoned or mistreated in Spain.

We continue to work with and support several charities who rescue dogs from Spain and re-home them into Europe and the USA. We foster and rehabilitate dogs and help to find them permanent homes where they will be safe and cared for.

You can also find NDRSS on facebook and follow them on Twitter

Para Mascotas for Pets - Cruz Azul

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THE CRUZ AZUL MISSION

Cruz Azul is a registered charity (CIF: G73817371 Asociación Benefica: 11.720/1a) which exists to provide veterinary care for the sick and injured pets of people in need and to promote responsible pet ownership.

OUR PRIORITIES

Providing and maintaining veterinary services on a stable, sustainable and long-term basis.
Expanding these services, in line with a clear and controlled Business Plan as funds and circumstances permit.
Encouraging funding, by raising awareness and developing an understanding of our work.
Delivery of pet health initiatives.

Find out more about what we do by visiting our website or our Facebook page.

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For the record the Colin Fry Rainbow Lodge in Spain is NOT a registered charity. The money goes direct to Mikey! Dodgy as hell!

For the record the Colin Fry Rainbow Lodge in Spain is NOT a registered charity. The money goes direct to Mikey! Dodgy as hell!

Something frequently overlooked when we talk about charities in Spain is the actual word “charity”, in the sense of an organization. Despite constant use of the word in fund raising activities, there is actually no direct equivalent in Spain to that which we understand as a charity in the UK. Rather, there are two types of charitable organizations: a fundación (foundation) and an asociación (association). There is a large difference between the two, since a fundación must have an asset base of €30,000 and a board of trustees as basic legal requirements, whereas an asociación is far simpler and virtually free to set up.

Even though there is no central charity commission in Spain as there is in the UK, there are strict administrative, fiscal and legal controls over the fundraising activities and expenditure of fundaciones, in addition to the requirement for them to have significant assets and a board of trustees. It is, too, only fundaciónes whose names are legally required to be registered, and only they benefit from tax relief on donations (law HERE).  An asociación can only gain such fiscal benefits if they have a declaration of “utilidad pública” (public usefulness) from the Ministerio del Interior, for which they must already have been in existence, and acting effectively, for at least two years.

From the foregoing, it will be clear that only fundaciones really equate to what we recognize as charities. This is not to say that asociaciones don’t often do sterling work, but it is also fair to say that Spain has known scandal after scandal concerning bogus “charities”. At the very least, I hope the above has helped provide some information for readers to begin to check that they are donating to genuine causes, rather than putting them off donating at all, because there is increasing need for, and reliance on, charitable giving in Spain at present.

Question:   
18 October 2015 at 7:41 am

How can I check on a charity in Spain and that the monies are being used for the reason that the charity is being set up for.

Answer:   
18 October 2015 at 9:56 am

There’s no central charity commission in Spain, and as I say on the main Charity in Spain page (third link in the first paragraph above), only a fundación really qualifies as what we would recognize as a charity. You can ask for the details of an organization’s registration as an asociación or fundación, and if it’s the latter, then their details are a matter of public record; you will also know that their management is subject to stringent fiscal, administrative and legal controls. If it’s an asociación, however, then there’s not the same control, nor is it a matter of the same public record, but it will at least have been set up as a formal organization, and be required by law to submit annual reports … and having been involved in one myself, I can confirm that it’s not something you do unless you mean it! If it is neither, however, then the safest course is to treat it as an unconfirmed fund-raising matter with no surety as to where the money is going at all.

"Actin is a genuine asociación, or at least using a number that looks like one, but the Rainbow Lodge isn't, nor is it a fundación - very far away from it. From what I can see on the gofundme page, which is the only thing I can really find for it, it's a set-up which may or may not be genuine but which is not a formal thing in any respect. A fundación is an officially recognized organization which must have a registered office and accounts - it's a proper charity as we'd understand the word. An asociación is a lesser entity, but still needs formal registration and an office.

This looks nothing like either, and I see it all the time here, individuals raising money in the name of "charity" to appeal to their fellow nationals' better nature or gullibility without the slightest ability to account for where any money raised going, or even how much of it there is. This is not to claim "scam", but very often that's exactly what such things are. The best that perhaps could have been said is that it might be an attempt to raise sufficient funds to set up a fundación ... but then the gofundme page is quite explicit that the money is going to set up a sanctuary in the physical sense, not an organization (and if it's anything like the Canaries, the materials for the purpose get donated anyway, and the donors are allowed to think they've been bought with their money) ... "

JDBP wrote:Dodgy as hell. Only a fool would go against the wishes of Colin Frys real family and donate to this dodgy animal sanctuary in Spain.

Colin Fry would be spinning in his grave now he realises what a fool he was.

Alas its all karma if you believe in that.

Had many people in the know thank me for speaking up when they couldnt

JDBP wrote:Dodgy as hell. Only a fool would go against the wishes of Colin Frys real family and donate to this dodgy animal sanctuary in Spain.

Colin Fry would be spinning in his grave now he realises what a fool he was.

Alas its all karma if you believe in that.

Had many people in the know thank me for speaking up when they couldnt

mac wrote:
I'm guessing you don't believe in karma so what's your take, jon?  Where does your insight into Colin's thoughts now come from?  guesswork?  And what's the alleged dodgy animal sanctuary (alleged until demonstrated) got to do with anything?  Do tell, jon....

Candlelight.kk wrote:I have since been in contact with Ms Anscombe, the owner of the website quoted above
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and here is some of her expert guidance on the subject:

"Actin is a genuine asociación, or at least using a number that looks like one, but the Rainbow Lodge isn't, nor is it a fundación - very far away from it. From what I can see on the gofundme page, which is the only thing I can really find for it, it's a set-up which may or may not be genuine but which is not a formal thing in any respect. A fundación is an officially recognized organization which must have a registered office and accounts - it's a proper charity as we'd understand the word. An asociación is a lesser entity, but still needs formal registration and an office.

This looks nothing like either, and I see it all the time here, individuals raising money in the name of "charity" to appeal to their fellow nationals' better nature or gullibility without the slightest ability to account for where any money raised going, or even how much of it there is. This is not to claim "scam", but very often that's exactly what such things are. The best that perhaps could have been said is that it might be an attempt to raise sufficient funds to set up a fundación ... but then the gofundme page is quite explicit that the money is going to set up a sanctuary in the physical sense, not an organization (and if it's anything like the Canaries, the materials for the purpose get donated anyway, and the donors are allowed to think they've been bought with their money) ... "

JDBP wrote:Obviously I am not going to reveal names of people who have emailed me in PRIVATE.
But I would say that the ONLY people who have attacked me for what I have said about the Rainbow Lodge, are ignorant fans, who have no idea the truth of what went on towards the end of Colin's life. (See this thread for an example of the ignorance)

I have had people who were very close to Colin in life contact me and thank me, people who have hated on me in the past, people who consider me an enemy because I expose him as a fraud, they have contacted me to thank me! Some names surprised me!

SO yeah, once again, Jon doing what no one else is prepared to do, and speak out on the truth, and incredibly I am doing so in part to defend Colin and his memory, and in part because it is the right thing to do.

One of these days the various idiots on here will finally GET IT, in that I always speak the truth, and I always know what the hell I am talking about.

JDBP wrote:

mac wrote:
I'm guessing you don't believe in karma so what's your take, jon?  Where does your insight into Colin's thoughts now come from?  guesswork?  And what's the alleged dodgy animal sanctuary (alleged until demonstrated) got to do with anything?  Do tell, jon....

I don't believe in Karma, i find it ironic that he was taken in, manipulated towards the end, just like he did to so many people, and IF you believe in karma, then it hit him hard.

My insight comes from a few places, firstly i actually knew Colin, I spoke to him for countless hours over the years, I also know people who were very close to him, and saw first hand how he was manipulated, and spoke to me about it.

As for the sanctuary, it has everything to do with it, but you will have to do your own homework to figure out why and how.

Why do I always need to lay everything down in black and white for you people?
If I can find out the truth, so can anyone!

Again, not one single person who knew Colin BEFORE his relationship with Mikey has said a single word against what I have said.
Not one!
The only people moaning at me now, are friends of Mikey who he has sent to abuse me, or ignorant fans who just see the big bad skeptic, and think I am causing trouble for troubles sake.

Colin's true friends, work colleagues and close family all support and agree with what I have said regarding the Sanctuary.

That is all I will say for now.

mac wrote:
Lay it down for "you people."?  Do you feel we "such people" are not worthy of your assistance, that we need to hunt out the information about which you appear to have ready access?

Or are you simply mischief-making rather than speaking straight about what you claim you know?

If you've got the facts straight (not doubting you but corroboration would be nice) would you point us in the right direction so we can view them first-hand?  You're bound to be found correct if you're correct and we "such people" would be gratefully enlightened by your support and help.

Whadya have to lose, Jon?

JDBP wrote:You see you should have done your research before ranting at me!
As now you look pretty stupid

The problem though, as with so many things, is that stories get passed around and with each telling something else gets added to it (opinions, biases, agendas & thoughts of the teller) and very often the actual facts of the thing get distorted and people end up believing and re-telling the distorted accounts and recording them as *fact*. This is why it's so important (to my mind) to have (and if we don't have it, then to seek out) access and reference to the source - on any topic.

Candlelight.kk wrote:

JDBP wrote:You see you should have done your research before ranting at me!
As now you look pretty stupid

On the contrary.     The outcome of all this just serves to highlight and confirm something that I said earlier in this very thread - which was:

The problem though, as with so many things, is that stories get passed around and with each telling something else gets added to it (opinions, biases, agendas & thoughts of the teller) and very often the actual facts of the thing get distorted and people end up believing and re-telling the distorted accounts and recording them as *fact*. This is why it's so important (to my mind) to have (and if we don't have it, then to seek out) access and reference to the source - on any topic.

QED

mac wrote:My, my, Jon.  You have gotten yourself worked up!  Please calm down. At least you're not being called a liar by this 'woo'  as you love to term (quote) "such people" as myself.  

Do you know, all this stuff really doesn't matter to my life and I'll remember the aspects of Colin that were important to me.  It'll all come out in the wash, anyway, when we all get to know for certain about all this 'stuff'.  Even you, Jon, although if it turns out that there is no afterlife, none of us will have the satisfaction of saying the other was wrong!

But if there is an afterlife, we 'woos' might want to look you up to tease you a little...     I wonder if it annoys you that it's a win-win situation for us 'woos'?  The best you can achieve are ultimately-valueless minor personal victories.

 I guess you'll take what you can...

JDBP wrote:

Candlelight.kk wrote:

JDBP wrote:You see you should have done your research before ranting at me!
As now you look pretty stupid

On the contrary.     The outcome of all this just serves to highlight and confirm something that I said earlier in this very thread - which was:

The problem though, as with so many things, is that stories get passed around and with each telling something else gets added to it (opinions, biases, agendas & thoughts of the teller) and very often the actual facts of the thing get distorted and people end up believing and re-telling the distorted accounts and recording them as *fact*. This is why it's so important (to my mind) to have (and if we don't have it, then to seek out) access and reference to the source - on any topic.

QED

Yet you had NO Info when you emailed me you huge rant attacking me! lol

Nice to see the right people are backing me up now!
Yet again Jon Donnis 100% right once again. Damn it must piss you woos off

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After the opening prayer and a few minutes of lively singing we hear Charlie who raises the vibrations with laughter followed by Mahatma Gandhi (aka Bapu) The seance was held in Colin Fry's Spirit Lodge in Haywards Heath on Thursday evening Feb 22nd 2001. I was there along with about 20 other sitters, it was conducted in full blackout and Colin was cable-tied by his wrists and legs to his chair in a curtained off cabinet. The voices could be heard moving around the room and some sitters were touched by the communicators ...continued on part 2

Mahatma Gandhi (aka Bapu) continues his communication and then helps the wife of one of the sitters to come through who is able to embrace her husband but not talk, then Dolly (AKA Danial) comes through and answers questions including one I give him about how he helps the communicators come through, followed by another wife of a sitter and then the granddad of a sitter who both give evidential communications. The seance was held in Colin Fry's Spirit Lodge in Haywards Heath on Thursday evening Feb 22nd 2001. There were about 20 sitters, it was conducted in full blackout and Colin was cable-tied by his wrists and legs to his chair in a curtained off cabinet. The voices could be heard moving around the room and some sitters were touched by the communicators ...continued on part 3

Final part and a sitters granddad continues with his communication followed by Dolly and then a sitters son comes through with an emotional and evidential communication with his mum before Dolly returns to close the evening. We all then sang again as Colin and his chair levitates out of the cabinet into the centre of the room and Colin is brought out of trance. The seance was held in Colin Fry's Spirit Lodge in Haywards Heath on Thursday evening Feb 22nd 2001. There were about 20 sitters, it was conducted in full blackout and Colin was cable-tied by his wrists and legs to his chair in a curtained off cabinet. The voices could be heard moving around the room and some sitters were touched by the communicators

Alan Pemberton interviews Colin Fry about his trance and physical mediumship.  Recorded in 1998 from Eastbourne's local radio station Sovereign Radio

JDBP wrote:

mac wrote:My, my, Jon.  You have gotten yourself worked up!  Please calm down. At least you're not being called a liar by this 'woo'  as you love to term (quote) "such people" as myself.  

Do you know, all this stuff really doesn't matter to my life and I'll remember the aspects of Colin that were important to me.  It'll all come out in the wash, anyway, when we all get to know for certain about all this 'stuff'.  Even you, Jon, although if it turns out that there is no afterlife, none of us will have the satisfaction of saying the other was wrong!

But if there is an afterlife, we 'woos' might want to look you up to tease you a little...    I wonder if it annoys you that it's a win-win situation for us 'woos'?  The best you can achieve are ultimately-valueless minor personal victories.

I guess you'll take what you can...

Not worked off, just gloating in the fact that once again I am proved right, and the attacks made on me by various people on this site were proven to be wrong.

Oh and there is a LOT more to come out about Colins final time on this planet! And I am sure when Mikey is facing prison, he will reveal loads more in a last ditch attempt to save his credibility!

And I have said this for years now, if any believer dies, and finds out there is an afterlife, PLEASE come haunt me!
So far many have died, yet no hauntings, strange that, almost proof I am right once again!

Candlelight.kk wrote:
Thank you for passing on that enlightening information. May I ask that you share these revelations on the Skeps forum, where YOU raised the question in the first place HERE - about the charity 'ACTIN' (which, it should be noted - is a legitimate charity). In what you might term a coincidental turn of events (but what I see as synchronicity in action!), re the expert information quoted above regarding Charities in Spain - it turns out that the owner of that website (Janet Anscombe) is in fact a registered member of Skeps! I did not know that at the time when I quoted from her website on the Skeps forum - only found this out later.

So, can you please go back there and finish what you started: [Only admins are allowed to see this link]

Less of the nod-and-wink stuff and more of the FACTS please!

JDBP wrote:Of course the combined investigatory skills of this forum matches a rotten potato, and unless things are presented in step by step form, you all just want to believe the nonsense

Post by JDBP » 19 Mar 2015 03:05 pm
Ok I will have to see what I can do myself to expose this fraud.

JDBP wrote:Dont you think i have enough on my plate, think i can remember something you asked me to do a year ago!

Post what you want to know on my forum and I will do it for you.

JDBP wrote:Dodgy as hell. Only a fool would go against the wishes of Colin Frys real family and donate to this dodgy animal sanctuary in Spain.

Colin Fry would be spinning in his grave now he realises what a fool he was.

Alas its all karma if you believe in that.

Had many people in the know thank me for speaking up when they couldnt

Candlelight.kk wrote:Also from Mercury Light Circle

Published on 21 Aug 2015

Alan Pemberton interviews Colin Fry about his trance and physical mediumship. Recorded in 1998 from Eastbourne's local radio station Sovereign Radio