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Ghosts and hauntings

Post by Stardust on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:10

(originally posted on 26 Jan 2008)

I have been looking at a paranormal site which is extremely interesting.
The Paranormal Database is a serious ongoing project to quantitatively document as many locations with paranormal / cryptozoological interest as possible, region by region in the UK, with frequent additions and current stories continuously updated.
It has a diary of hauntings (2008) so you know where to go and when in order to be on site and, who knows, perhaps witness one.
Here is the link : http://www.paranormaldatabase.com/index.htm
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Post by Candlelight.kk on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:11

Looks to be a very interesting site, although I can't see mention of a regular "haunt" of mine (as they say) well known not only for its delicious cuisine, but also for its interesting history.. Very popular with tourists and locals alike; the place is never empty, and if you read this you can see why ...
Here's a write-up I've kept from there:

THE SPANIARDS INN - Hampstead Heath

The Inn was built in 1585 during the reign of Queen Elizabeth 1 and later it became a residence and used as a retreat from the plague in town by the Count of Gondomar. The Count was a prime player in the arrest and execution of Sir Walter Raleigh who had captured his brother in an earlier raid on the new world. Gondomar was Spanish Ambassador to King James 1 since 1613 and they were great friends. James 1 was the author of a book on withcraft which led to the great witch trials by the Witch-finders. The house was converted into an inn at hte end of the 17th century and was named after the landlords two famous duelling Spanish brothers. Francesco Porero and his brother Juan fought a duel in 1721 over a woman. Francesco killed his brother. Juan, (one of our active ghosts) is uried in the garden and the lady was not too happy with the outcome, by all accounts.

Hampstead has been the haunt of many literary figures who visited the Spaniards. Charles Dickens featured the Spaniards' pleasure garden as a setting in Pickwick Papers. In about 1820 John Keats wrote the "Ode to a Nightingale" from a session sitting in the garden. The Spaniards was also frequented by playwrights Oliver Goldsmith and David Garrick, and the poets Lord Byron, Shelly and his sister Mary, Coleridge and the writer Lamb. The inn was patronised by the artists John Constable, Joshua Reynolds, Thomas Gainsborough, William Blake and William Hogarth. Incredily the pu was used by three major Gothic horror writers Robert Louis Stevenson - Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde, Bram Stoker the author of Dracula and Mary Shelly creator of Frankenstein were both customers of the Spaniars Inn. The Spaniards Inn is featured in Dracula the novel. The poet A.E. Houseman and novelist Evelyn Waugh were locals.

EIGHTEENTH CENTURY HIGHWAYMEN AND ROBBERS

In the beginning of the 18th Century the pub as we know it today was a very different place. Most taverns or inns such as The Spaniards had their back rooms and upper rooms, where in the smoky sweaty candle-lit atmosphere the whoring and drinking and gambling went on all night.

Inn-keeping was profitable in the early 1700's in an age when to be a publican at all in London was a near admission of corrupt if not criminal tendencies. By the late 1730's England was the greatest commercial nation in the world. Its public culture stressed the importance of civilised behaviour and polite manners. But there was a popular admiration for armed robbers which go back to stories of Robin Hood. The English have always held a sort of strange pride in their robbers especially bold ones such as Dick Turpin and Jack Sheppard.

Dick Turpin bored at being an apprentice butcher craved more excitement than his father, John a butcher also and previous pub landlord. Turpin soon took to robbing the rich to indulge in his passion of strong ale and gambling on local cock fights. Turpin used The Spaniards on many occasions to watch passing coaches and made good use of the cellars and secret passageways in evading the magistrates men. The landlord let him hold the spare keys to the stables and toll gate house for his share of the robberies.

Dick by then a famous highwayman with a heavy price hanging over his head was on his return to The Spaniards from Marylebone Gardens when the following incident took place. Turpin held up a coach carrying Mrs Fountayne who was by all accounts a beautiful woman. He raised his mask and kissed the lady. The lady struggled and Turpin remarked "Don't be alarmed madam; you can now let everyone know that you have had the good fortune to have been kissed by Dick Turpin, the famous highwayman". Perhaps this is the lady, who is often seen wandering the garden late at night searching for another stolen kiss.

THE HAUNTING OF THE SPANIARDS PAST AND PRESENT

There are several old and new accounts of strange happenings at the Spaniards and on the Heath beyond. The Inn has been trading here for 350 years and we believe the spirits or energies are comfortable in making themselves known to us who come here. There is a really positive energy source upstairs in the Turpin Room and here dwells an invisible hand. The spectral hand likes to tug your sleeve mischievously while you are eating or drinking, or the shadow that silently passes by in the Ladies lavatory. Living upstairs there are rooms that get cold unexpectedly, invisible smothering forces pinning you down on the shaking bed.

The Car Park - Ther is the sound of an invisible horse galloping over the car park in the evenings or the glimpse of a horse. Some say it is Dick Turpin on Black Bess roaming the Heath still or it is another restless highwayman who ended up on the gibbet between the elm trees on Gibbet Hill that survived until 1907 when it was blown down by a gale, along the road back towards Hampstead.

The Garden - The Beer Garden has its ghost - a lady. The garden was bigger then and the stables were over the car park side. The lady appears in a fine white translucent dress of the 1750's with a light foggy aura that turns to blue as she moves towards the pub and then disappears below the steps. The Turpin story says she is the lady looking for the kiss - Mrs Fountayne.

The ghost who walks through walls - There are three interpretations on the ghost in the bar - a shadowy male figure strides across the bar and then disappears in the wall next to the end of the bar. The first is that it is reputed to be Dick Turpin himself. The second version is that of Black Dick the moneylender who was a friend and lender to the notorious Earl of Barrymore 1769-1793 who lived fast and died young and loved it. He was shot through the eye at the age of 24 when theloaded rifle he carried in his coach went off by accident. Barrymore belonged to a club called the Four Horse Club where the young wild regency bucks would bribe any coachman to give them the reins and drive at breakneck speed.
Black Dick the moneylender was crushed outside the pub by a speeding coach and four. The landlord of the pub was paid hush-money over the incident and Black Dick has been haunting the downstairs ever since.

The third and oldest verion of the ghost is that of the Spaniard, Juan Porero who is buried in the garden who ws killed y his brother Francesco in the duel over the affections of the same woman, after they set up the Inn. This is more likely as the strong passions involved make a classic ghost story of unfinished business over the centuries. The pub appears to replay old images from the past.

Ghostly goings on today:
The staff upstairs have over the years seen and felt scary and strange activities, such as cold rooms, getting smothered by an unseen body and witnessing moving objects. The most recent case was of a poltergeist balancing a picture frame corner on a bedside table at an angle. Somebody wants to make contact. Poor Juan ...
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Post by Stardust on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:13

Sent cold shivers down my back did that, Candlelight. Maybe there are all three ghosts in the bar, not just the one.

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Post by Voldsgaard on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:15

I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it ....

I enjoy hauntings and apparitions very much!

If I could - I would be a regular on Most Haunted or TAPS....

... but only in my dreams...


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Post by Candlelight.kk on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:16

TAPS ????
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Post by Feather on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:17

The American Ghost Hunter series. More believable than Most Haunted.


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Post by Candlelight.kk on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:18

Oh ok. I don't get to see any of them, only have my 5 terrestrial channels
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Post by Feather on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:20

You'll have to invest in Sky. You would get CF and JE regularly. Once you had it, you'd wonder what you did without it
--just like my Mum with the tumble dryer!!
So-- you've worked out the aliases . Drat that!!!
BTW--I've started a new Technical thread cos I had a problem. Hope that's OK. I was trying to get an avatar on here.
I went through the whole process and all was OK, including its size, until I tried to submit it but nothing happened.
The submit button didn't seem to be working---or maybe it's just me after all. Now everybody will know for sure who Feather is.!!!!


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Post by Voldsgaard on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:21

has anyone watched "Paranormal State"??


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Post by Feather on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:23

I haven't. What's it like?


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Post by Voldsgaard on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:24

PARANORMAL STATE is a half-hour series chronicling the extraordinary life of Ryan Buell and other members of the Penn State University Club The Paranormal Research Society (PRS) as they seek to find the truth behind terrifying real life mysteries, hauntings and ghosts. In some ways, the members of PRS are your basic college kids - dealing with the problems of school, dating, and finding their way in the world. The difference is that these students are drawn to examining "other" worlds as well -- working on cases that include ghosts, hauntings and other paranormal phenomena. Each week, they are contacted for help by outside parties ranging from the Catholic Church to ordinary families who are terrified by unusual events in their homes.

The producers try to make it interesting by brewing on a supposedly Demon that should haunt the leader of the pack - they won't even say the demons name... Its all very Goth and not in my taste although I have seen a few of the first episodes...

Its a documentary but seems a lot like its staged...

http://www.pennstateprs.com/


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Post by Feather on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:25

Thanks,V. If it's Goth and probably staged, it's not my taste either.
BTW----I've answered your post re vision. What do you think?
Could be for me after all???


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Post by Candlelight.kk on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:27

Sounds like it's based on a similar thread to 'Most Haunted'. I've only had glimpses of that as it was on terrestrial tv for a while, and I believe it's definitely staged - 'poetic licence' for entertainment tv.

Some while back, my friend invited me over for the day to watch her 'Living TV' - was a whole weekend of psychics, ghosts, paranormal, etc. Her poor husband hid upstairs all day watching the sports channel while we consumed some "spirits" of another kind while watching. Amongst the features we saw some mediums in demonstration (I think Colin Fry might have been one). I enjoyed the whole day immensely, although did feel that so much of it was presented for entertainment - until I saw this Scottish fella in demonstration. This to my mind was the "real deal". This guy was not playing up to any cameras and nothing was "fixed" or faked for entertainment purposes; this was the filming of a live demonstration where a medium was on stage and his numerous accurate messages were being received throughout the large audience, each one emotionally being validated and confirmed. I immediately felt drawn to this man and even then somehow "knew" that our paths would cross one day. I didn't know his name at the time, but that was the first time I ever heard tell of Gordon Smith.
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Post by Feather on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:29

Yeh, Candlelight. I remember the 1st time I saw Gordon on TV. I was amazed, especially at the
detail he gave. I decided there and then that he was THE medium for me. Three cheers for GS.


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Post by Candlelight.kk on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:30

Gordon talks a lot about "synchronicity".
What amazing occurrences of sychronicity I have experienced, in particular connected with him.
It turns out that our paths have indeed crossed before, and now having met the man and had the privilege of attending his development workshops (where through his guidance,experience and teachings I have been able to experience and share for myself the wonderful gift that he does indeed have - any doubts I may have harboured concerning my own personal path were eradicated from my experiences there).
His gift of communicating with those who have passed is genuine, I can state that categorically first-hand, but more importantly is the way in which he uses this gift, honestly and lovingly and with his whole heart and soul, in a true spiritualist nature.

Sadly, there will always exist the sceptics, the unbelievers, those who simply do not understand because they haven't experienced these things for themselves. I'm talking here of those who ridicule and dismiss straight off the whole spectrum of mediumship and lump all together with the frauds and con-artists in the "psychic industry", of which there are sadly far too many who are simply lining their own pockets and egos at the expense of the most vulnerable of people. I applaud those who are endeavouring to syphon out the frauds (but their methods and indeed their reasons in a lot of cases beg question).
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Post by lynneandjohn on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:32

yes i agree candlelight. whilst i too applaud anyone for exposing a fraud, there is no excuse for those that ridicule and judge us for our belief. i feel sad that they have not opened up to the possibility that there is an afterlife. some do and are respectful of differing opinions, but some are totally rude and somehow find that acceptable.
boy are thry gonna be in for a shock
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Post by lynneandjohn on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:32

that reminds me candlelight when is you demonstration, is it this week. how many times have you met gordon if you don't mind me asking. i know you have felt a close affinity with him in relation to mediumship. has he taught you anything at your circle. sorry for all the questions, i could ask all day, as he is truly amazing. luv lynne. p.s your one lucky lady!
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Post by Stardust on Fri 05 May 2017, 01:35

Scotland's Haunted Castles : http://www.rampantscotland.com/features/haunted.htm  
The Rampant Scotland Directory also has lots of other interesting and useful information about Scotland.
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